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Post by Perma Charrhunter on May 9, 2022 11:44:11 GMT -8
I'd like to take this opportunity to vouch for Max. For 99.9% of the population I would agree with Frosty's statements even if it is a somewhat known player. Max however is very far from just a known player. Max is a Co-Founder of Guild Wars Legacy and has been a trusted member in the Guild Wars community for as long as anybody ever has. He is even used as a trade mod himself in many situations, some of which I can confirm because he did it for myself. Pre-Searing these days is not near as active as it once was for the general public and trying to set up a meeting time between 3 people, likely in different parts of the world, could be a deal breaker in some trades. To anybody who is not wanting to deal with the hassle/schedule of a TM I can 100% vouch for Max to be trusted in any trade no matter the value. To be clear- Trade mods are highly encouraged by myself for ANY trade that has a possibility of going south. Just stating that if anybody including TM's can be trusted, Max's name is without a doubt in that conversation just the same as any other.
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Post by Frosty on May 9, 2022 13:08:12 GMT -8
I'd vouch for Max as well, but the suggestion of using a TM bend to nobody, and nobody should insist the other person go first because of standing. The matter is having a neutral third party, which in a trade between Max and someone else, he is not neutral. As previously stated, there are available trade mods in pre who stretch many different time zones, it is difficult for me to believe that finding one is much trouble. Also, if you want to make a sale and the other person to feel comfortable and safe with it, there's no harm in waiting another week to make a sale on an item that hasn't sold in a year and a half. A TM is always worth the wait if either party prefers it, and if that's a deal breaker, it should be.
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Post by Perma Charrhunter on May 10, 2022 14:57:40 GMT -8
This is a private deal in which two people act on a mutual agreement. Nobody has disagreed with the philosophy of a TM and Max has already stated he is not rejecting one, yet the argument somehow persists. Exactly as you have stated above "the suggestion of using a TM bend to nobody" it is just that, a suggestion. The only reason I decided to reply in the first place is due to the connotation of your last message. You "insist"? You "advise"? I mean what does "if you truly intend to sell it" infer? Instead of a friendly message reminding a TM is suggested you act as if you're the new Czar of the forums and how people go about their private business. All my original response was meant to do was combat your mixed message trying to make it seem as if this is a shady deal that you're swooping in to save the day. Nobody has to trade first if they do not want to, Max simply explained his stance as to why he is not willing to. As far as TM's the most recent activity on the forums is June 2019. Being one of Emma's closest friends in game I can tell you she's been inactive for the past 6-8 months without a single response. How is a mostly inactive player trying to sell an item for over a year expected to trust a TM that one he doesn't know, and two doesn't even have a listing on the forums that vet their service? Is it that the TM is, would you say, vouched for? Interesting concept.
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princess
PSC Member.
Posts: 30
IGN #1: Princess of pre
IGN #2: I Master of Pre I / I Master Storage I
Guild: PRE / CHarr
Time Zone: BST/UTC
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Post by princess on May 10, 2022 19:46:27 GMT -8
I think to draw a line under all this is best. Me and max have spoken in PM and everything will be figured out. Just crossed wires regarding how the trade will take place though the concern is appreciated. We all want to enjoy the game and ensure everyone is safe! Frosty is an excellent and listed trade mod, simply making sure everything is ok. There are still plenty of people in this community who pose as others, gain access to others accounts, and all in all do what they can to scam people. Never any harm in being 100% sure on a trade, big or small.
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princess
PSC Member.
Posts: 30
IGN #1: Princess of pre
IGN #2: I Master of Pre I / I Master Storage I
Guild: PRE / CHarr
Time Zone: BST/UTC
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Post by princess on May 12, 2022 22:37:50 GMT -8
Traded without issue, can now vouch for max myself many thanks
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