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Post by Akara on Jul 9, 2018 6:10:11 GMT -8
I was thinking the other day what would be the rarest item that could drop in pre today (not rarest item existing - pre nerfs etc). My guess would be something that can drop from the Fire Charr Boss, as it's the only elementalist high-level foe in pre. So I would probably go for these 3 (in random order): 16/18 Fire staff 10-16 dmg +8 energy 18/18 10-16 dmg fire wand 18/18 +9 energy flame artifact Of course the other bosses could drop such items for other professions too and 10-16 dmg staves and wands can only drop from lvl 10 foes (I think) so the equivalent items would be equally rare I guess... I would be interested to hear your thoughts on this Cheers, A
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Post by ishalldefend on Jul 9, 2018 6:15:00 GMT -8
I would argue that there could be even rarer items from hidden stashes, if we're going by drop rate, like an 8-11 or 8-12 dmg 12^50 Giant Slayers Hammer.
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Post by Apollo on Jul 9, 2018 7:28:08 GMT -8
18/18 9e fire, death, dom, smite caster offhand
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Post by Akara on Jul 10, 2018 4:54:34 GMT -8
I would argue that there could be even rarer items from hidden stashes, if we're going by drop rate, like an 8-11 or 8-12 dmg 12^50 Giant Slayers Hammer. Hmm, good point, do we have any data on hidden stash drops? Like all possible skins and rarity of those? Do hidden stashes follow the rules of other chests regarding item levels (and associated gold values) they can drop?
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Post by GᴧրύϨϦ on Jul 10, 2018 4:55:08 GMT -8
18/18 9e fire, death, dom, smite caster offhand All is here *-*
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Post by ishalldefend on Jul 10, 2018 11:03:37 GMT -8
I would argue that there could be even rarer items from hidden stashes, if we're going by drop rate, like an 8-11 or 8-12 dmg 12^50 Giant Slayers Hammer. Hmm, good point, do we have any data on hidden stash drops? Like all possible skins and rarity of those? Do hidden stashes follow the rules of other chests regarding item levels (and associated gold values) they can drop? All unique skins from hidden stashes are listed in the weapons guide. It's been my experience that the Giant Slayers Hammer is the rarest of those. I haven't checked out the gold values, but you can only get Q0 items from them.
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Post by Akara on Jul 11, 2018 0:09:00 GMT -8
How about hidden stash levels (similar to chest levels)? It seems that the hidden stashes in the Northlands are a bit different from the ones found elsewhere, as they can also drop gold coins aside from weapons (https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hidden_Stash). So perhaps they are of a higher level and thus can potentially drop better loot? redfireball Do you have any other info on stashes? I think I will be looking more into stash drops in the near future...
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Post by ishalldefend on Jul 11, 2018 11:03:21 GMT -8
I'm pretty sure that I've received coins from non-Northlands hidden stashes, though.
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Post by redfireball on Jul 19, 2018 12:47:34 GMT -8
How about hidden stash levels (similar to chest levels)? It seems that the hidden stashes in the Northlands are a bit different from the ones found elsewhere, as they can also drop gold coins aside from weapons (https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hidden_Stash). So perhaps they are of a higher level and thus can potentially drop better loot? redfireball Do you have any other info on stashes? I think I will be looking more into stash drops in the near future... Didn't see differences between hidden stashes up north and in other area, the goldcoin part however seems likely. Icouldn't tag them to a level, since their unid range seems to be 1-6g and that doesn't add up with any lvl droprange. Good input to look deeper into however For rarest items: there's plenty - like mentioned 9e 18/18 foci q4 etc. My choice would be a 16/8/10-17 obby earth staff q9 with a 18hct earth inherent and an id value of 68g. Or a twin hammer 15-25 q4 18wH. The staff is ag least the one with the lowest chance to drop, each of the items would however be one of a kind and thus be equally rare. Also the hidden stash idea sounds fun - but chances are higher. There is no cprrect answer to this, there is too few definition of "rarest": actual rarity in means of how many duplicates exist? - then there is a ton of options. Likelihood to drop? - then I'd go for the staff. But how do you define likelihood? Dropchance? Statistically over all killed mobs in pre? Over all charr? By charr bosses? By their respective drop source? It's a question of reference. The staff would be on top of most of these: there has been one 10-17staff, there has been one 16hsr staff that turned up on forums, obby is the rarest occuring skin in pre, q4 would be the absolute minimum possible requirement and 68g is the overall highest possible id value in pre for purples. However I like imagining all the possibilities out there 12/4 crude 58wH +9vsCharr... q9 grim cesta medusa skin q3 +1/18death hsr death 18% - btw for foci/shields the combination +1/18 attr +9ar has most different possibilities in means of attr and dmg type and thus would be less likely to drop
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Post by Lord on Jul 19, 2018 12:56:35 GMT -8
Like fireball said, I dont think a good 12/9 dualmod charr shield has EVER been spotted in pre. So add that to the rarity factor, as well as 7-19 axes which are so rare the whole market responded with "wtf" the last time one dropped.
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Post by ishalldefend on Jul 20, 2018 2:58:16 GMT -8
redfireball are you sure that obby staves are rarer than twin hammers? I would say that I've had at least 5 purple obby staff drops, but I've never had a twin hammer drop. It could just be unluckiness on my part, though.
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Post by redfireball on Jul 20, 2018 5:57:08 GMT -8
redfireball are you sure that obby staves are rarer than twin hammers? I would say that I've had at least 5 purple obby staff drops, but I've never had a twin hammer drop. It could just be unluckiness on my part, though. Absolutely I agree with you - I meant to say obby is rarest staff skin (since I was laying out, why said staff should be rarest)
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